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attorneys, and then we will know at that point that they're ready to sentence rick gates. >> look on the bright side, nothing redacted today. we'll solve the mystery eventually. thanks for joining us for "inside politics." erica hill is in for brianna keilar. she starts right now. have a great afternoon. >>> i'm erica hill in for brianna keilar. under way right now, we begin with breaking news. the aftermath of the horrific attack on two mosques in new zealand. at least 49 people are dead, dozens more wounded. a man in his late 20s is in custody, charged with murder. and a racist manifesto believed to be linked to the attack points to the motive behind the massacre -- hate. the gunman opening fire on worshippers who had gathered for friday prayers, and he apparently streamed the attack on social media as it unfolded. cnn europe editor nina dos santos bring us up to speed on the latest developments. nina, what more do we know about the suspect, who is charged now with murder? >> thanks so much, erica. we know he is 28 years old and according to australian media, he is a young man beli
attorneys, and then we will know at that point that they're ready to sentence rick gates. >> look on the bright side, nothing redacted today. we'll solve the mystery eventually. thanks for joining us for "inside politics." erica hill is in for brianna keilar. she starts right now. have a great afternoon. >>> i'm erica hill in for brianna keilar. under way right now, we begin with breaking news. the aftermath of the horrific attack on two mosques in new zealand. at least...
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they haven't done that in the rick gates situation. they have just said, there are several wrong going investigations. that's why we're not ready to have him sentenced. it's also interesting that they put the names of the special counsel's office, the prosecutors from there, one is andrew weissman. he is leaving in a matter of weeks. they are doing that strategically. revealing other prosecutors on this court filing would tell us where the other investigations are going, where they are ongoing. they don't want to do that. >> keep looking for clues. we find some, but there's a lot we don't know. thank you very much. >>> the breaking news continues. the administration misses the deadline to provide three house committees with details of president trump's meeting with vladimir putin. is the trump team stonewalling? the way they subscribe to movies. we don't follow the naysayers. ♪ ♪ i've done all sorts of research, read earnings reports, looked at chart patterns. i've even built my own historic trading model. and you're still not sure
they haven't done that in the rick gates situation. they have just said, there are several wrong going investigations. that's why we're not ready to have him sentenced. it's also interesting that they put the names of the special counsel's office, the prosecutors from there, one is andrew weissman. he is leaving in a matter of weeks. they are doing that strategically. revealing other prosecutors on this court filing would tell us where the other investigations are going, where they are ongoing....
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one of those points, rick gates. he still remains assistant campaign manager for the trump campaign here, that he has more -- he has more to give. >> mueller says hold up rick gates, we're not done with you get. we're not going to sentence you yet because rick gates was there during the campaign, after paul manafort got kicked off. he stayed. he was there during the transition. and he was there during the inauguration. most importantly, that meeting at the cigar bar. so we have paul manafort running the campaign, rick gates and konstanin kilimnick a russian operative, manafort gives kilimnick priority trump polling data. they leave through separate doors and then paul manafort lies about it during his cooperation agreement with mueller. to a prosecutor, that stinks to high heaven. >> so is what mueller knows what gates knows and therefore since mueller has not been forthcoming shall we say, that is now why gates continues to be this, oh, my gosh, we have to keep moving with him? >> sure. we've seen rick ghates has be
one of those points, rick gates. he still remains assistant campaign manager for the trump campaign here, that he has more -- he has more to give. >> mueller says hold up rick gates, we're not done with you get. we're not going to sentence you yet because rick gates was there during the campaign, after paul manafort got kicked off. he stayed. he was there during the transition. and he was there during the inauguration. most importantly, that meeting at the cigar bar. so we have paul...
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here's the thing, rick gates is an central figure. it's not just inaugural ties and also august 2, 2016 meeting where we know he was president with konstantin kilimnik and paul manafort. so clearly he's a central figure in either southern district of new york's investigations or special prosecutor investigations or frankly other investigations that we may not know about that he's still being -- being useful and cooperating. a lot of this comes down to incentive, why you keep something cooperating is they have an incentive to do so until they're sentenced, right. they're not ready to sentence him yet. it looks like there's much more corporation. and jill touched on this too, we just don't know what's out there in terms of other investigations that are still sort of in the pe perk lags phase. this should be interesting. >> rick gates is unique. there's not a single other person who has knowledge of manafort's business dealings, the trump campaign at the highest level and then continues through after the election into the transition peri
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that the special counsel is still not ready to schedule a sentencing date for rick gates. the special counsel and attorneys for gates told the court he continues to provide information in, quote, several ongoing investigations. gates and lawyers for the special counsel promise to file an update in 60 days. cnn's roeporters joining us now. what is robert mueller telling us in telling us nothing? >> there are still several ongoing investigations where gates is a value, and you would have thought with the sentencing, that would end his role, but we're learning that gates is still a key person in ongoing investigations. as part of his cooperation, he has to cooperate with any federal or state investigation, and we do know that the u.s. attorney's office in manhattan is investigating the inaugural fund. think of gates' role. he was on the campaign, was around during the transition and was a key senior member of the inaugural committee. >> so, for me, that's where i think everything is. they can't say that they're done with rick gates until he's done cooperating in every investi
that the special counsel is still not ready to schedule a sentencing date for rick gates. the special counsel and attorneys for gates told the court he continues to provide information in, quote, several ongoing investigations. gates and lawyers for the special counsel promise to file an update in 60 days. cnn's roeporters joining us now. what is robert mueller telling us in telling us nothing? >> there are still several ongoing investigations where gates is a value, and you would have...
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it has to do with rick gates talking. he was in the room and knows what he's talking about and he wants to give it to the special counsel. it looks like he's got a lot of story to tell. that could be the final chapter we're looking at. tim o'brien, thank you for your experience. >>> coming up, terror in new zealand 8,000 miles away. how much are politicians to blame when they spout the toxic rhetoric of fear because there is a global market for hate? >>> trump's big defeat. big defet >> congress has the freedom to pass this resolution, and i have the duty to veto it, and i'm very proud to veto it. >> the president gets out his veto pen after a dozen senate republicans join in a bipartisan rebuke of him. is trump's own party finally turning on him? much more ahead. stick with us. customize my insurance. and as a fitness junkie, i customize everything, like my bike, and my calves. liberty mutual customizes your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ uh uh, i deliver the
it has to do with rick gates talking. he was in the room and knows what he's talking about and he wants to give it to the special counsel. it looks like he's got a lot of story to tell. that could be the final chapter we're looking at. tim o'brien, thank you for your experience. >>> coming up, terror in new zealand 8,000 miles away. how much are politicians to blame when they spout the toxic rhetoric of fear because there is a global market for hate? >>> trump's big defeat....
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stone himself said that was probably rick gates. so that ties stone right next to trump and that witness, that person, would know who ordered him to tell stone to go reach out to wikileaks. that's just one example. but there are going to be tons for gates. >> very lastly, carol, inwonder if there's a sense that you have that, even if some of these guys are helping out and cooperating, they still did a lot of bad stuff. is it just a layman's misunderstanding to say that it seems like most of the people who have been sentenced so far have gotten pretty light sentences. >> well, that's not a misunderstanding. but these kinds of cooperators, the ones that have very, very helpful inside knowledge, they're going to get a lot of credit for full, forthcoming cooperation as opposed to sort of limited cooperation that we've sometimes seen with some other people. if they really bear their souls and tell all, they're going to get very light sentences, generally speaking. rick gates pled to a 51 -- i'm sorry, to 57-71 month sentence. he's going
stone himself said that was probably rick gates. so that ties stone right next to trump and that witness, that person, would know who ordered him to tell stone to go reach out to wikileaks. that's just one example. but there are going to be tons for gates. >> very lastly, carol, inwonder if there's a sense that you have that, even if some of these guys are helping out and cooperating, they still did a lot of bad stuff. is it just a layman's misunderstanding to say that it seems like most...
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i suspect that rick gates is giving cooperation. if you compare that to somebody like michael flynn. michael flynn's attorneys this week asked for additional 90 days before sentencing. the mueller team stayed mum on it. did not take a position. didn't say that it made since to give 90 days. >> this was the fifth time the special counsel asked the judge to delay sentencing for rick gates. what does that tell you about the president's legal battle here? at this point, is rick gates going to be charged? >> rick gates pled guilty to two felonies in federal court. it depends whether he gets 18 months to five years. that is really what we will be left with. >> all about the sentencing. thank you. katie phang, thank you. >>> at the top of the hour, "up with david gura. he has a look at what is coming up. what's up? >> phillip, thank you. i'm thrilled that hakeem jeffries will be with us. congress just passing a resolution calling for robert mueller's report to be made public. we will take stock of where things stand with congressional inve
i suspect that rick gates is giving cooperation. if you compare that to somebody like michael flynn. michael flynn's attorneys this week asked for additional 90 days before sentencing. the mueller team stayed mum on it. did not take a position. didn't say that it made since to give 90 days. >> this was the fifth time the special counsel asked the judge to delay sentencing for rick gates. what does that tell you about the president's legal battle here? at this point, is rick gates going to...
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rick gates pled to a 51 month sentence. without that kind of consideration being given, you're not going to have important cooperating witnesses in the future. >> and people in the regular world are thinking how can i bear my soul to get a similar shake? thank you both very much. and still ahead a court rules that the president can be sued for defamation, setting up a potential deposition. potential deposionti i felt i couldn't be at my best wifor my family. c, in only 8 weeks with mavyret, i was cured and left those doubts behind. i faced reminders of my hep c every day. but in only 8 weeks with mavyret, i was cured. even hanging with friends i worried about my hep c. but in only 8 weeks with mavyret, i was cured. mavyret is the only 8-week cure for all common types of hep c. before starting mavyret your doctor will test if you've had hepatitis b which may flare up and cause serious liver problems during and after treatment. tell your doctor if you've had hepatitis b, a liver or kidney transplant, other liver problems, hiv
rick gates pled to a 51 month sentence. without that kind of consideration being given, you're not going to have important cooperating witnesses in the future. >> and people in the regular world are thinking how can i bear my soul to get a similar shake? thank you both very much. and still ahead a court rules that the president can be sued for defamation, setting up a potential deposition. potential deposionti i felt i couldn't be at my best wifor my family. c, in only 8 weeks with...
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there's a lot more rick gates could be discussing with mueller's team. i wrote about the bizarre august 2nd meeting in 2016 where manafort and rick gates gave internal trump pain polling day to to a suspected russian spy. that is a big, big piece of the puzzle that rick gates is probably still helping with. and it's very surprising and very notable that he's continuing to cooperate here. >> stick around. jill, thank you for coming onto react with us to some of the developing news. we'll keep following that and follow something else that is happening. potentially later on today, the white house president trump preparing to do something he's never done before. veto the republican revolt in the senate setting up a showdown between the national wall. if you have moderate to severe plaque psoriasis, every day can begin with flakes. it's a reminder of your struggles with psoriasis. but what if your psoriasis symptoms didn't follow you around? that's why there's ilumya. with just 2 doses, a majority of people were clear or almost clear. and over time, even more
there's a lot more rick gates could be discussing with mueller's team. i wrote about the bizarre august 2nd meeting in 2016 where manafort and rick gates gave internal trump pain polling day to to a suspected russian spy. that is a big, big piece of the puzzle that rick gates is probably still helping with. and it's very surprising and very notable that he's continuing to cooperate here. >> stick around. jill, thank you for coming onto react with us to some of the developing news. we'll...
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that's a status update on rick gates. he was paul manafort's deputy. he has been cooperating with investigators. we are going to hear from his team and prosecutors about everyone is ready to set a sentencing date or whether he is still cooperating. if he is still working with them, that's significant. we know paul manafort has been sentenced in both d.c. and virginia. there's nothing more on that. we will see tomorrow night, midnight deadline. >> we will watch together with you. thank you, sara murray. >>> richard blumenthal of connecticut is joining us. he is a member of the judiciary and armed services committees. thanks for coming in. >> thank you. >> what message are these 12 republican colleagues of yours in the u.s. senate sending to president trump with this vote against his national emergency declaration? >> there are two ways to view it. number one, the president has certainly lost some of his sway. he made this vote intensely personal. it was about him. he pushed, pulled, bullied in every way he could. the second more hopeful note that i thin
that's a status update on rick gates. he was paul manafort's deputy. he has been cooperating with investigators. we are going to hear from his team and prosecutors about everyone is ready to set a sentencing date or whether he is still cooperating. if he is still working with them, that's significant. we know paul manafort has been sentenced in both d.c. and virginia. there's nothing more on that. we will see tomorrow night, midnight deadline. >> we will watch together with you. thank...
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rick gates is still cooperating with the ongoing investigations. and chuck schumer and nancy pelosi have released a question. attorney general barr's public record raises more questions. the full report and the underlying documentation should be made public without any further delay. given his public record of bias, he is not a neutral observer and is not in a position to make objective determinations about the report. that is a significant line in that, remember that. it goes on to say, and most obviously for the president to say he's completely exonerated directly contradicts the words of mr. mueller and is not to be taken with any degree of credibility. congress requires the full report and the underlying documents so that the committees can proceed with their independent work including oversight and legislation -- and legislating to address any
rick gates is still cooperating with the ongoing investigations. and chuck schumer and nancy pelosi have released a question. attorney general barr's public record raises more questions. the full report and the underlying documentation should be made public without any further delay. given his public record of bias, he is not a neutral observer and is not in a position to make objective determinations about the report. that is a significant line in that, remember that. it goes on to say, and...
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its to the do with rick gates talking. he knows what he's talking about and wants to give it to the spelgsz counsel. it looks like and he's got a what are of story to tell. thatted can be the final chapter we're looking at. coming up >>> terror in new zealand. online hate is turning nothing to real-life violence 900 miles away. they spout toxic fear because there is a global market for hate. >>> plus trump 's big defeat. >> congress has the freedom to pass this resolution and i have the duty to veto it and i'm very proud to veto it. >> well, the president gets out his veto pen after a dozen senate republicans join in a bipartisan rebuke of him. is trump's own party finally turning on him? party finally turning on him [ paper rustling ] exactly, nothing. they're completely different people, that's why they need customized car insurance from liberty mutual. they'll only pay for what they need! [ gargling ] [ coins hitting the desk ] yes, and they could save a ton. you've done it again, limu. only pay for what you need. ♪ l
its to the do with rick gates talking. he knows what he's talking about and wants to give it to the spelgsz counsel. it looks like and he's got a what are of story to tell. thatted can be the final chapter we're looking at. coming up >>> terror in new zealand. online hate is turning nothing to real-life violence 900 miles away. they spout toxic fear because there is a global market for hate. >>> plus trump 's big defeat. >> congress has the freedom to pass this...
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rick gates testified against ma manafort and his financial crimes. rick gates have been cooperating with the special counsel now for some time ton heart on the hear matter where they are investigating. >> the additional case against manafort does add additional time and pressure on him if he has further information to share it. >> is that the advice you would be giving him if you were still his lawyer? >> it is the one way to cut down on jail time if you have a witness who does have valid information to cooperate with. there is a chance for redaction of the sentence. that's the only ticket to get out of jail at this point assuming if he gets found guilty or not. >> the president would take that and say that's pressure to force somebody to lie. that's one of the problems. it could be that they have genuine information or the problem is and there is a fine line if you squeeze too hard, people come up with stories because they want to get out. that hopefully, any decent prosecutors, they'll get additional information to verify whatever that's said. they
rick gates testified against ma manafort and his financial crimes. rick gates have been cooperating with the special counsel now for some time ton heart on the hear matter where they are investigating. >> the additional case against manafort does add additional time and pressure on him if he has further information to share it. >> is that the advice you would be giving him if you were still his lawyer? >> it is the one way to cut down on jail time if you have a witness who...
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it appears that that might be one of the investigations rick gates is still cooperating on. it tells us on one hand as far as the mueller investigation is going, manafort's element of that which rick gates was key to is over and the departure of a top prosecutor imminent in the fresh counsel of office andrew weisman. the other hand, rick gates is still cooperating with as they put it several ongoing investigations. gates is still a key player in his role even if the mueller investigation is winding down. his role appears to be very important in ongoing investigations elsewhere in the justice department. >> and plural, investigations. right? thanks very much for your reporting. >>> one day after republicans rebel against the president's national emergency, president trump could do something today that he has not done before in office. will we see his first veto? named 'park' in the u.s. ninety-six hundred roads it's america's most popular street name. but no matter what park you live on, one of 10,000 local allstate agents knows yours. now that you know the truth, are you in
it appears that that might be one of the investigations rick gates is still cooperating on. it tells us on one hand as far as the mueller investigation is going, manafort's element of that which rick gates was key to is over and the departure of a top prosecutor imminent in the fresh counsel of office andrew weisman. the other hand, rick gates is still cooperating with as they put it several ongoing investigations. gates is still a key player in his role even if the mueller investigation is...
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hee one caveat i have, unless it's the case that the cases on bich rick gates are cooperating are being parceled out to other u.s. attorney's offices, obviously like the southern omstrict of new york or the d.c. l somewhere else so the special counsel team can step back and bve its work be done. >> brennan: steve bannon and a gew other individuals have said ese biggest risk to the president is not from the special counsel but the southern district of new york, which you know well do. you agree with that? >> i don't know if i would frame it that way. but yeah. n e f.d.n.y., which i le seven and a half years, doesn't wve circumstance scrip shun in the same way the special counsel was. ine special counsel was lapointed under a political ongulation and was supposed to look at only interference in the nsection and "collusion" with llssians in collection with the collection and anything arising from it. one thing that arose from it was sstruction. ase southern district of new osrk has a lot of people in it imose mission is only to find crimes, be able to prove it iyond a reasonable doubt if i
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he attacked one of the witnesses and attacked rick gates and he said something like when rick gates testified that everything that was done was within manafort knowledge that he paid close attention. he would have known how much money he was stealing. that's a devastating comment and could be what made the one juror who held out for acquittal. there was only one. everyone voted for 18 counts of convictions. maybe that's the thing that changed that one juror's mind and affected the outcome of the trial. you are right, he did make jokes about things that his wife had said and demean things. he said was just about the high lifestyle of manafort when in fact what they were proving was that not he wore an expensive ostrich jacket but his income reported could not passively support his lifestyle, that's how you prove criminal tax fraud. he really interfered with the trial and his behavior was terrible as was his sentencing ignoring all the guidelines and rewarding someone for not being remorseful. there was a sophisticated crime pattern here that should have been taken into account and elevated the
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they were offering the same deal they gave to rick gates. think about just what this means in terms of this entire investigation. paul manafort and rick gates were the first people indicted in this investigation. we are back here in court, obviously, for the significant matter, for the significant sentencing of paul manafort. this will be a big sort of win for them, perhaps, if they can get the prison time that they're asking for here. >> we're now being told, shimon, that in the federal courtroom behind you, paul manafort is now addressing the judge. presumably seeking some sort of merc mercy. i have no idea what he is saying. do you get a sense of what we should anticipate? a first time we are hearing from manafort in a long time. >> reporter: it is the first time. there's been a gag order out of this case. the attorneys and paul manafort have not been permitted to speak publically about this investigation. it will be significant. it's going to be the first time that we are hearing from him. obviously, it's going to be all about remorse. h
they were offering the same deal they gave to rick gates. think about just what this means in terms of this entire investigation. paul manafort and rick gates were the first people indicted in this investigation. we are back here in court, obviously, for the significant matter, for the significant sentencing of paul manafort. this will be a big sort of win for them, perhaps, if they can get the prison time that they're asking for here. >> we're now being told, shimon, that in the federal...
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based on the public information we know the status hearing for rick gates at the end of this week. what happens with him next. will he be sentenced? one of the things we could learn there is if there is more cooperation still needed from rick gates by prosecutors and investigators, why is that important? >> absolutely, that is very important. very telling factor for any cooperator, not jut gates is when they being the prosecutors want to further postpone the sentencing date. they're still working. there's still more information they want to get and having represented cooperators, i know that i want that sentence postponed as long as possible to get every little bit of mileage out of my client's cooperation. at the status hearing if they are willing to set a sentencing date, we can derive from that on the public record that his work is drawing to a conclusion. >> one point to bring up, shan, what he represented cooperators, a lot of people watch to see is she going to come down hard on him. it bears repeating that cooperators are performing. they're performing to offer a story that
based on the public information we know the status hearing for rick gates at the end of this week. what happens with him next. will he be sentenced? one of the things we could learn there is if there is more cooperation still needed from rick gates by prosecutors and investigators, why is that important? >> absolutely, that is very important. very telling factor for any cooperator, not jut gates is when they being the prosecutors want to further postpone the sentencing date. they're still...
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mike flynn not as much and rick gates very busy. a grand cooperator here and really as a result of the mueller investigation he decided to cooperate and helping what we know is in several investigations and back to the point, here is the thing, there are a lot of other investigations still on going and certainly the issue of the sharing of the campaign data with that russian intelligence official is not going away any time soon. it's still a very critical question to the special counsel team which means the fbi and department of justice goes to the heart of their investigation. that very much i think is still going to go on. i also think very much as we see with these cooperators like rick gates their help -- >> wait, wait, wait. that part is not over because of the counter intelligence investigation? >> yeah, there is a counter intelligence investigation. it doesn't go away. a lot of parts of this report were taken out or will not be made public is because the fbi is continuing to work intelligence, continuing to work on informatio
mike flynn not as much and rick gates very busy. a grand cooperator here and really as a result of the mueller investigation he decided to cooperate and helping what we know is in several investigations and back to the point, here is the thing, there are a lot of other investigations still on going and certainly the issue of the sharing of the campaign data with that russian intelligence official is not going away any time soon. it's still a very critical question to the special counsel team...
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rick gates, the key operator. if there are still things going on for the inauguration investigation commission, rick gates is a key player. if they push him off again, i think we can say it's because he's not done with the investigation. >> will paul manafort get a pardon? >> yes. after the election. he can't hurt trump anymore, he's totally burned because he lied so many things. pardon carries a political cost. after the election, win or loose changes things. >> sarah sanders was remarkable and said we'll let you know when he makes a decision. that's leaving the door wide open. >> it is. i think the president is wrestling how to use this pardon power, very broad, a heavy hammer to have and tempted to use it. i would guess his political advisors say, be careful, it's a risk. people do not like pardons. i get viewer questions, people hate pardons because it's unjust and undoes convictions. >> i was thinking about who i'm interested in pardoning. >> i watched it. >> you are a follower. >> this is uncomfortable for a
rick gates, the key operator. if there are still things going on for the inauguration investigation commission, rick gates is a key player. if they push him off again, i think we can say it's because he's not done with the investigation. >> will paul manafort get a pardon? >> yes. after the election. he can't hurt trump anymore, he's totally burned because he lied so many things. pardon carries a political cost. after the election, win or loose changes things. >> sarah sanders...
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with rick gates, it is hard to tell as well. in the inauguration case, he was the key figure that helped tom barrett to organize the inauguration. it is a little unclear whether rick gates have been tapped out as well. we'll get a little bit more of a sense. he could hang onto both of those. >> do you think we are done with seeing indictments? >> hard to say but that raises an interesting question. wait a minute, for the sake of argument the mueller probe ends, what's going to happen? you will have cases of individual u.s. attorney offices. >> they're going to disperse. >> number two, you will have skeletons there. after all, they have the finish the cases that are not finished. >> what about the doj's budget darren? >> we saw last year there was a mark in there to tell us that mueller were expecting to spend roughly the same amount he spent in the first year. one of my colleagues is in the doj reading, it happened the last hour. we'll be watching closely so see closely and see how much is being spent by robert mueller. that'll
with rick gates, it is hard to tell as well. in the inauguration case, he was the key figure that helped tom barrett to organize the inauguration. it is a little unclear whether rick gates have been tapped out as well. we'll get a little bit more of a sense. he could hang onto both of those. >> do you think we are done with seeing indictments? >> hard to say but that raises an interesting question. wait a minute, for the sake of argument the mueller probe ends, what's going to...
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rick gates, rick gates was one of the first people charged by the special counsel back in 2017. he was charged alongside paul manafort in the very first mueller indictment. gates, though, fairly quickly peeled off and pled guilty and started cooperating. unlike paul manafort, gates' cooperation seems to have gone well. it did not break down and go badly for mr. games the way it did for paul manafort. for gates, it was a somewhat productive process at least to the extent the special counsel felt comfortable calling him as a witness to use against paul manafort in the big federal trial in virginia. i mean, beyond that turn on the witness stand, we had very little insight into what rick gates might have been helping with but remember, he wasn't just manafort's deputy. rick gates was also the number two guy in charge of the trump inaugural. since gates started cooperating among the developments we've been a little surprised by is the sweeping subpoena issued to the trump inaugural committee from the southern district of new york. who knows, that may have been what seems to have exte
rick gates, rick gates was one of the first people charged by the special counsel back in 2017. he was charged alongside paul manafort in the very first mueller indictment. gates, though, fairly quickly peeled off and pled guilty and started cooperating. unlike paul manafort, gates' cooperation seems to have gone well. it did not break down and go badly for mr. games the way it did for paul manafort. for gates, it was a somewhat productive process at least to the extent the special counsel felt...
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rick gates to cooperate at this time with the house probe? >> that's the right move. that's exactly what i would do. it tells me something important. mueller or the southern district but the prosecutors intend to use gates in a big way going forward. they intend to use him as a trial witness, someone you will bank charges on. when you have a cooperating witness you get demands from other prosecutor offices, other entities who want to talk to him. the response that prosecutors give is no, we don't want him exposed, cross examined, questioned publicly until we are ready to use him at the trial. >> hope hicks saying she'll cooperate with the nadler probe. one of the few of 81 folks they want documents for who will turn them over. does that tell you she probably thinks she doesn't have any criminal exposure here or that she'll selectively cooperate? >> yeah. i don't think they can or should accept selective cooperation. i think she's probably taking care of her liability. i would go to the prosecutor and say, look, she has information that will b
rick gates to cooperate at this time with the house probe? >> that's the right move. that's exactly what i would do. it tells me something important. mueller or the southern district but the prosecutors intend to use gates in a big way going forward. they intend to use him as a trial witness, someone you will bank charges on. when you have a cooperating witness you get demands from other prosecutor offices, other entities who want to talk to him. the response that prosecutors give is no,...
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meanwhile, rick gates' cooperation with prosecutors continues. gates doesn't yet have his own sentencing date. but his life is very different than paul manafort since he pled guilty. unlike manafort, rick gates is at home all this time and hasn't been in jail for a day, although there is still the prospect that's where he's heading when his cooperation is fully over and he's finally sentenced. the convictions for which paul manafort was sentenced today were the only jury verdicts so far special counsel robert mueller and scandals and the grand jury verdict, everybody plead. nobody else has yet faced a trial other than paul ma that fo -- manafort and he didn't take the stand in his own defense. there was tons of testimony against him from among others rick gates, his former deputy, also from accountants and bookkeepers. in the end that jury in virginia convicted manafort on five felony counts of tax fraud, two felony counts of bank fraud and one felony count related to him not reporting his foreign bank accounts and the best news manafort got that
meanwhile, rick gates' cooperation with prosecutors continues. gates doesn't yet have his own sentencing date. but his life is very different than paul manafort since he pled guilty. unlike manafort, rick gates is at home all this time and hasn't been in jail for a day, although there is still the prospect that's where he's heading when his cooperation is fully over and he's finally sentenced. the convictions for which paul manafort was sentenced today were the only jury verdicts so far special...
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rick gates, rick gates was one of the first people charged by the special counsel back in 2017. he was charged alongside paul manafort in the very first mueller indictment. gates, though, fairly quickly peeled off and pled guilty and started cooperating. unlike paul manafort, gates' cooperation seems to have gone well. it did not break down and go badly for mr. games the way it did for paul manafort. for gates, it was a somewhat productive process at least to the extent the special counsel felt comfortable calling him as a witness to use against paul manafort in the big federal trial in virginia. i mean, beyond that turn on the witness stand, we had very little insight into what rick gates might have been helping with but remember, he wasn't just manafort's deputy. rick gates was also the number two guy in charge of the trump inaugural. since gates started cooperating among the developments we've been a little surprised by is the sweeping subpoena issued to the trump inaugural committee from the southern district of new york. who knows, that may have been what seems to have exte
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the jury clearly credited rick gates as to many of the accounts. all of this tells me that the prosecutors have real plans to use rick gates again not just as a background witness, but as a trial witness. >> quickly before i let you go, we heard them say executive privilege is not here to shield wrongdoing. but executive privilege hasn't been extensively tested in the courts. how do you see this playing out? >> the last real test we had was 1974 with richard nixon, the opinion that representative nadler talked about. it is meant to protect national security, military secrets, it's not meant as a general shield against criminal liability. but we have a completely different supreme court. all the justices from 1974 are gone now, we have a completely new court. so i think the president's going to be banking on particularly his new people, gorsuch and cav mao to perhaps chankavanaugh to >> bowling, justice department prosecutors have issued multiple subpoenas in a criminal investigation of boeing's investigation of certification of 737 max 8 plays. thi
the jury clearly credited rick gates as to many of the accounts. all of this tells me that the prosecutors have real plans to use rick gates again not just as a background witness, but as a trial witness. >> quickly before i let you go, we heard them say executive privilege is not here to shield wrongdoing. but executive privilege hasn't been extensively tested in the courts. how do you see this playing out? >> the last real test we had was 1974 with richard nixon, the opinion that...
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meanwhile, rick gates' cooperation with prosecutors continues. gates doesn't yet have his own sentencing date. but his life is very different than paul manafort's since he pled guilty. i mean, unlike manafort, rick gates has been at home all of this time. he hasn't been in jail even for a day, although there is still the prospect that that's where he's heading when his cooperation is fully over and he's finally sentenced. the convictions for which paul manafort was sentenced today were the only jury verdicts thus far in any case brought by special counsel robert mueller or in any derivative prosecution that's related to any of these scandals. it's the only jury verdict. everybody else has pled and is either awaiting sentencing or they've already been sentenced by a judge. nobody else has yet faced a trial other than paul manafort. at his trial this summer you will recall that paul manafort didn't take the stand in his own defense. there was tons of testimony against him from, among others, rick gates, his former deputy. also from accountants and
meanwhile, rick gates' cooperation with prosecutors continues. gates doesn't yet have his own sentencing date. but his life is very different than paul manafort's since he pled guilty. i mean, unlike manafort, rick gates has been at home all of this time. he hasn't been in jail even for a day, although there is still the prospect that that's where he's heading when his cooperation is fully over and he's finally sentenced. the convictions for which paul manafort was sentenced today were the only...
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prosecutors today asked for another delay in rick gates' sentencing. they asked for four separate delays in gates' sentencing over the course of the manafort trials. now that the manafort trials are over, today they just asked for an extension in gates' sentencing for a fifth final. mr. gates, quote, continues to cooperate with respect to several ongoing investigations, says the special counsel's office. and so at least another 60 days, at least until mid-may now before gates' case will be back in court after yet another extension. gates is still an actively cooperating witness in several ongoing investigations. no we still don't know what those investigations are, but, again, trying to stay humble here, given everybody's record on predicting these cases. we might surmise it has something to do with gates was number two in the trump inaugural. trump inaugural didn't appear to be under law enforcement scrutiny at the outset, but it's clearly under scrutiny now. trump inaugural was a subject of subpoena from the southern district of new york recently. an
prosecutors today asked for another delay in rick gates' sentencing. they asked for four separate delays in gates' sentencing over the course of the manafort trials. now that the manafort trials are over, today they just asked for an extension in gates' sentencing for a fifth final. mr. gates, quote, continues to cooperate with respect to several ongoing investigations, says the special counsel's office. and so at least another 60 days, at least until mid-may now before gates' case will be back...
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rick gates has not been sentenced. he's still cooperating. in fact, his cooperation agreement has just been extended. what if the report could potentially interfere with anything gates might be helping on or open or ongoing investigations that could still be out there? >> so one possibility on this theme that mueller is passing the baton and handing off loose ends to others could involve gates' cooperation and others' cooperations, including whatever happens with roger stone. that is the concept that you don't need me anymore, i'm handing this off to the system, and the system is what it's all about and it's bigger than me. we might see this happening with southern district of new york, d.c. courts, even state and city courts in new york. i don't think he's going to hang onto these. i think his staff is going to dwindle down, and i think he's going to let the system handle the remainder of this. the other way to look at this is that whatever rick gates is cooperating on does not go to the seminal question perhaps that mueller was supposed to
rick gates has not been sentenced. he's still cooperating. in fact, his cooperation agreement has just been extended. what if the report could potentially interfere with anything gates might be helping on or open or ongoing investigations that could still be out there? >> so one possibility on this theme that mueller is passing the baton and handing off loose ends to others could involve gates' cooperation and others' cooperations, including whatever happens with roger stone. that is the...
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rick gates, of course, is still awaiting sentencing on felony charges. prosecutors said as recently as last week that his cooperation with prosecutors is still ongoing and it's still relevant to multiple pending and open investigations. so it's not a huge surprise that with that open criminal case against gates and with his involvement in all those other ongoing cases, it's not that much of a surprise that prosecutors are telling gates that he shouldn't cooperate with congressional inquiries at this time while all those other matters are open. it's interesting, though. even so, even with that, his lawyer also told the judiciary committee that that may soon change. quote, our position in this regard may well be different in the coming months, after rick gates presumably comes out the other side of his own criminal case and out the other side of his cooperation deal with the feds. cnn is reporting tonight that former white house communications director and long-time trump organization employee hope hicks also plans to cooperate with the judiciary committee
rick gates, of course, is still awaiting sentencing on felony charges. prosecutors said as recently as last week that his cooperation with prosecutors is still ongoing and it's still relevant to multiple pending and open investigations. so it's not a huge surprise that with that open criminal case against gates and with his involvement in all those other ongoing cases, it's not that much of a surprise that prosecutors are telling gates that he shouldn't cooperate with congressional inquiries at...
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robert mueller saying he is not done with former trump campaign official rick gates. what does that tell us about the timing of the special counsel's final report? you're watching "andrea mitchell reports." stay with us on msnbc. the way you triumph over adversity. and live your lives. that's why we redesigned humira. we wanted to make the experience better for you. now there's less pain immediately following injection. we've reduced the size of the needle and removed the citrate buffers. and it has the same effectiveness you know and trust. humira citrate-free is here. a little change can make a big difference. humira can lower your ability to fight infections. serious and sometimes fatal infections, including tuberculosis, and cancers, including lymphoma, have happened, as have blood, liver, and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure. tell your doctor if you've been to areas where certain fungal infections are common and if you've had tb, hepatitis b, are prone to infections, or have flu-like symptoms or sores. don't
robert mueller saying he is not done with former trump campaign official rick gates. what does that tell us about the timing of the special counsel's final report? you're watching "andrea mitchell reports." stay with us on msnbc. the way you triumph over adversity. and live your lives. that's why we redesigned humira. we wanted to make the experience better for you. now there's less pain immediately following injection. we've reduced the size of the needle and removed the citrate...
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rick gates, of course, has been a key cooperator for the special counsel's office. he testified against paul manafort, his former boss. gates was the deputy campaign manager, also the deputy on the inaugural committee, which we know is the subject of an ongoing inv southern district of new york, so we make it some sense of the time line when wget the filing friday. >> reporter: that will be one to watch. cardozo law school proof jessica roth, thanks very much. >> my pleasure. >> woodruff: the latest round of talks between the united states and the taliban concluded yesterday in qatar. it is the higheslevel gagement ever between the adversaries, now nearing the eca of a second of fighting in afghanistan. in a moment, we will hear the afghan government's perspective on the talks. but first, videographer sebastian rich recently sent us exclusive video of american and afghan operations an southern sitan, and nick schifrin reports on how bots are trying to use battlefield gains to force peacemaking concessions. >> hey, right up here. right up here. >> schifrin: in the 19
rick gates, of course, has been a key cooperator for the special counsel's office. he testified against paul manafort, his former boss. gates was the deputy campaign manager, also the deputy on the inaugural committee, which we know is the subject of an ongoing inv southern district of new york, so we make it some sense of the time line when wget the filing friday. >> reporter: that will be one to watch. cardozo law school proof jessica roth, thanks very much. >> my pleasure....
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the big thing is, though, i do think is rick gates. we've heard so little about him, and he's spent all this time cooperating. and we've learned a lot about his cooperation. he certainly helped him learn a lot about paul manafort's activities, the meeting with this russian kilimnik guy. so rick gates has been a bigger feg yr in this entire investigation. getting an update on him is going to pea a key sign whether or not the department of justice is done with his cooperation. we believe he's cooperating in other parts of the department of justice, specifically in the southern district of new york where there are other investigations. so i'm looking forward to that to see what happens there. but it does seem that the key players, the key parts of this investigation are being wrapped up. >> okay, then, what about flynn because there was supposed to be a flynn sentencing update tomorrow, but that was just canceled. what does that mean for the president's former national security advisor and for this case? >> they updated on us a few hours
the big thing is, though, i do think is rick gates. we've heard so little about him, and he's spent all this time cooperating. and we've learned a lot about his cooperation. he certainly helped him learn a lot about paul manafort's activities, the meeting with this russian kilimnik guy. so rick gates has been a bigger feg yr in this entire investigation. getting an update on him is going to pea a key sign whether or not the department of justice is done with his cooperation. we believe he's...
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he oversaw the paul manafort investigation, rick gates investigati investigation. he has been overseeing, obviously, other russia-related parts of this investigation. so certainly with him leaving, he is a senior member of this team. has been involved from the very beginning, has been at mueller's side from the very beginning. it just means that a lot of the parts of this investigation have been wrapped up and whatever it was that he is dealing with is probably now over. keep in mind, it doesn't mean that there aren't things that are still ongoing with the department of justice that are now being handled like, for instance, in the southern district of new york. that's the thing that we always have to remember. there could be parts of this investigation that live on with these people leaving. >> speaking of rick gates, he has what they call a status report tomorrow in federal court. he has been cooperating with the special counsel. he has been cooperating with the u.s. attorney, the southern district of new york. he was manafort's top deputy. >> he has turned out to
he oversaw the paul manafort investigation, rick gates investigati investigation. he has been overseeing, obviously, other russia-related parts of this investigation. so certainly with him leaving, he is a senior member of this team. has been involved from the very beginning, has been at mueller's side from the very beginning. it just means that a lot of the parts of this investigation have been wrapped up and whatever it was that he is dealing with is probably now over. keep in mind, it...
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give us a preview tomorrow with rick gates. what could happen here? >> like you mentioned earlier, the central question is going to be whether he's ready for sentencing. we saw earlier this week michael flynn does not yet want to be sentenced because he says i still have additional corporation i want to offer. rick gates has been cooperating for a really, really long time, both with mueller an prosecutors in new york, so the central question really is, has he completed his cooperation to his own satisfaction and to the government's satisfaction? >> and, mimi, this goes back to your point. let's say this time tomorrow night we're reporting that gates has been continued, because his work continues. what you're saying is, you don't need the core office for that you need individual prosecutors to pursue that, correct? >> right, you need an office to pursue it, so gates could conceivably be turned over as a cooperator to another u.s. attorneys office who is making use of his information. if he's useful in the inauguration investigation, for example, the so
give us a preview tomorrow with rick gates. what could happen here? >> like you mentioned earlier, the central question is going to be whether he's ready for sentencing. we saw earlier this week michael flynn does not yet want to be sentenced because he says i still have additional corporation i want to offer. rick gates has been cooperating for a really, really long time, both with mueller an prosecutors in new york, so the central question really is, has he completed his cooperation to...
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friday rick gates may learn more about his sentencing. manafort's sentencing may be the event that gains the most attention this week given the continuing questions surrounding a potential presidential pardon. today our nbc news colleague hallie jackson asked the white house about that. >> why hasn't the president ruled out a pardon for paul manafort? >> the president has made his position on that clear. he'll make a decision when he's ready. >> let's bring in our lead off panel. for a monday night. peter baker, chief white house correspondent for the "new york times." beret berger, a former assistant u.s. attorney with both the eastern district of new york and the southern district of new york. and chris mcgarian, reporter for the "los angeles times" who covers the special counsel investigation. and because tonight is another one of those nights where they've just handed me something from the "new york times" that has come out in the last half hour, i'd like to begin here in our new york studios with beret as this is another legal matter
friday rick gates may learn more about his sentencing. manafort's sentencing may be the event that gains the most attention this week given the continuing questions surrounding a potential presidential pardon. today our nbc news colleague hallie jackson asked the white house about that. >> why hasn't the president ruled out a pardon for paul manafort? >> the president has made his position on that clear. he'll make a decision when he's ready. >> let's bring in our lead off...
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rick gates was in those meetings that paul manafort had with russian intelligence with kilimnik. he was part of the trump inaugural committee. he can talk about the donations, even as it spins out to other districts. we'll continue to look at these issues. we'll see a status report on friday from rick gates' team that might spell out some of those details of how he's cooperating. when you think of judge amy jackson, you think of roger stone, another key witness in this case who can potentially provide some answers or at least the investigation into him could provide some answers into the connection between the trump campaign and wikileaks. while we are closing this really crucial chapter today, there are other threats to paul. and while we do think that mueller might be wrapping his probe in the coming weeks, it's not clear that just because manafort is being sentenced today that we're any closer to getting something. >> while you were reporting we got another nugget from inside the courtroom. we should probably explain why it is we're getting these nuggets. we don't have cameras
rick gates was in those meetings that paul manafort had with russian intelligence with kilimnik. he was part of the trump inaugural committee. he can talk about the donations, even as it spins out to other districts. we'll continue to look at these issues. we'll see a status report on friday from rick gates' team that might spell out some of those details of how he's cooperating. when you think of judge amy jackson, you think of roger stone, another key witness in this case who can potentially...
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manafort brought with him his deputy, rick gates, who ultimately testified against manafort himself. the mueller investigation stems from the overwhelming consensus within the u.s. intelligence community that russia interfered in the 2016 presidential election. 26 russian nationals are spreading misinformation on social media or conspiracy to commit computer crimes. >> distrust of the candidates and the political system in general. >> reporter: we still don't know why manafort shared internal trump campaign data with a man who mueller claims has ties to the kremlin. mueller's investigation has yielded guilty pleas from several people in trump's inner circle and so far entities, including russian nationals, have been charged with crimes relating to the probe. waterga watergate, which resulted in the resignation of president richard inform ixon, is the only political scandal that produced more charges, at least so far. manafort will learn his fate any moment now. his legal team argued to the judge in a recent filing he should serve less than the 25 years because he will be less likely
manafort brought with him his deputy, rick gates, who ultimately testified against manafort himself. the mueller investigation stems from the overwhelming consensus within the u.s. intelligence community that russia interfered in the 2016 presidential election. 26 russian nationals are spreading misinformation on social media or conspiracy to commit computer crimes. >> distrust of the candidates and the political system in general. >> reporter: we still don't know why manafort...
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former deputy chairman rick gates. do any of the names stand out above the others as possible triggers for donald trump? >> nicolle, the truth is they're all possible triggers for donald trump. that's because all of these figures at one point or another were right at trump's side and played key roles in his campaign in the case of roger stone and his sort of political birth in the years leading up to the campaign. michael flynn, of course, in the white house. they all could be triggers. the one i would keep an eye on though is the paul manafort sentencing wednesday. we've seen last week and frankly for the last several months now that president trump has spoken quite sympathetically about paul manafort. feels badly or says he feels badly about what manafort has been going through. his physical health and the pressure he's come under from prosecutors and crimes he's been charged with. four years in prison from that case in virginia last week, he could add additional prison time, is likely to add additional prison time w
former deputy chairman rick gates. do any of the names stand out above the others as possible triggers for donald trump? >> nicolle, the truth is they're all possible triggers for donald trump. that's because all of these figures at one point or another were right at trump's side and played key roles in his campaign in the case of roger stone and his sort of political birth in the years leading up to the campaign. michael flynn, of course, in the white house. they all could be triggers....
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rick gates was a senior official on the inaugural committee. so presumably, he's helping on that case. but clearly, there's not going to be indictments according to our reporting related to the central mandate for mueller which was collusion with russia, in the trump campaign and obstruction of justice. so that in and of itself, we're done, i mean that's basically what we learned yesterday. >> one has to wonder, jeff, potentially it is these other offshoot investigations, will that explain all of the lying, what's with all of the lying with so many parties in all of this, and if it doesn't come from the mueller report, when wilt we ever know? >> not to mention the instinct by the president and people around him to undermine the investigation, by calling it is a witch hunt, by saying it wasn't necessary, i'm very curious to see how the president will react, if the report comes out to exonerate him. will there be backtracking from the effort to say it is a ridiculous process or be sort of a turn-around and say he did a good job, you know, that he
rick gates was a senior official on the inaugural committee. so presumably, he's helping on that case. but clearly, there's not going to be indictments according to our reporting related to the central mandate for mueller which was collusion with russia, in the trump campaign and obstruction of justice. so that in and of itself, we're done, i mean that's basically what we learned yesterday. >> one has to wonder, jeff, potentially it is these other offshoot investigations, will that...
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and rick gates had a status conferencing set up within 60 days. and rod rosenstein is going to stick arourntdal for a little bit longer. >> based on the public filings we have. it's striking to me that right now everyone in both political parties does not know what is go on, despite the fact something is probably looming over them. and yet they just continue to sort of go along waiting for it like everyone else. >> the president's tweetsz last weekend really made everyone believe there must be something coming this week and experts were telling me if the mueller report were given to bill barr, then the white house would probably know that, which might explain some of trump's bizarre behavior over the weekend, his freakout. but the reality is we just don't know and the president himself has been going back and forth on this. on twitter he was saying there should be no report at all. now he's say he's fine with a report be released. and we don't even know whether there is going to be a report. or whether it's a sheet of paper or whether he's told hi
and rick gates had a status conferencing set up within 60 days. and rod rosenstein is going to stick arourntdal for a little bit longer. >> based on the public filings we have. it's striking to me that right now everyone in both political parties does not know what is go on, despite the fact something is probably looming over them. and yet they just continue to sort of go along waiting for it like everyone else. >> the president's tweetsz last weekend really made everyone believe...